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		<title>By: docwhat</title>
		<link>http://docwhat.gerf.org/2007/10/its-all-text-v080/comment-page-3/#comment-5945</link>
		<dc:creator>docwhat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dirk:

You need a "!important" I think.

Ciao!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dirk:</p>
<p>You need a &#8220;!important&#8221; I think.</p>
<p>Ciao!</p>
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		<title>By: Dirk</title>
		<link>http://docwhat.gerf.org/2007/10/its-all-text-v080/comment-page-3/#comment-5944</link>
		<dc:creator>Dirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well … okay … i tried


@namespace url(http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml);

img[title="It's All Text!"] {
  width:200px;
}


but it does not have any effect. The onl thing that seems to work is “visibility:hidden;” – no changing of position, size, or whatever possible :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well … okay … i tried</p>
<p>@namespace url(http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml);</p>
<p>img[title="It's All Text!"] {<br />
  width:200px;<br />
}</p>
<p>but it does not have any effect. The onl thing that seems to work is “visibility:hidden;” – no changing of position, size, or whatever possible <img src='http://docwhat.gerf.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dirk</title>
		<link>http://docwhat.gerf.org/2007/10/its-all-text-v080/comment-page-3/#comment-5943</link>
		<dc:creator>Dirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@docwhat: Would be more easy, if the button would have a CSS class ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@docwhat: Would be more easy, if the button would have a CSS class <img src='http://docwhat.gerf.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: docwhat</title>
		<link>http://docwhat.gerf.org/2007/10/its-all-text-v080/comment-page-3/#comment-5941</link>
		<dc:creator>docwhat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 07:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Dirk: &lt;/p&gt;

You should be able to style it with stylish.  If you have Firebug or the DOM inspector you can see what the markup for the button looks like.

Ciao!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dirk: </p>
<p>You should be able to style it with stylish.  If you have Firebug or the DOM inspector you can see what the markup for the button looks like.</p>
<p>Ciao!</p>
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		<title>By: Dirk</title>
		<link>http://docwhat.gerf.org/2007/10/its-all-text-v080/comment-page-3/#comment-5939</link>
		<dc:creator>Dirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’m using Arch Linux and Vim for editing with your extension. It works all great, just good work! But is there  possibility to style the button via CSS or something – or will there be such possibility? Would be really cool, to style the button to my needs (and moving it via negative maring values inside the text area *g*)

Kind regards,
Dirk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m using Arch Linux and Vim for editing with your extension. It works all great, just good work! But is there  possibility to style the button via CSS or something – or will there be such possibility? Would be really cool, to style the button to my needs (and moving it via negative maring values inside the text area *g*)</p>
<p>Kind regards,<br />
Dirk</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
		<link>http://docwhat.gerf.org/2007/10/its-all-text-v080/comment-page-3/#comment-5926</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanted to write that I found a solution to my problem with OSX.  I installed gvim.  There's a Darwin ports version here: http://www.akropolix.net/rik0/vim/

Happily using It's All Text now :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to write that I found a solution to my problem with OSX.  I installed gvim.  There&#8217;s a Darwin ports version here: <a href="http://www.akropolix.net/rik0/vim/"  class="extlink">http://www.akropolix.net/rik0/vim/</a></p>
<p>Happily using It&#8217;s All Text now <img src='http://docwhat.gerf.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
		<link>http://docwhat.gerf.org/2007/10/its-all-text-v080/comment-page-3/#comment-5925</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@tacitdynamite - thanks for offering a suggestion, even if it isn't your area of expertise (it's not mine, either, obviously!).

I've tried a couple of scripts which were posted as possibly addressing the issue.  For example, I'm now trying the script (it's sh, not bash) which was posted under the name iat.sh at http://docwhat.gerf.org/2007/03/its_all_text_v06/.  This version doesn't have both an open and an exec.  I think I've tried about three different scripts which have been posted.

When I run it from the command line, it gives the following error:
2008-10-13 12:40:11.304 open[2319] LSOpenFromURLSpec() returned -10827 for application /usr/bin/vi path /Users/ann/info/l.
2008-10-13 12:40:11.304 open[2319] Couldn't open file: /Users/ann/info/l
I touched the file, so it exists, but I still get the error.

When I try it from FF, nothing happens at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@tacitdynamite - thanks for offering a suggestion, even if it isn&#8217;t your area of expertise (it&#8217;s not mine, either, obviously!).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve tried a couple of scripts which were posted as possibly addressing the issue.  For example, I&#8217;m now trying the script (it&#8217;s sh, not bash) which was posted under the name iat.sh at <a href="http://docwhat.gerf.org/2007/03/its_all_text_v06/" >http://docwhat.gerf.org/2007/03/its_all_text_v06/</a>.  This version doesn&#8217;t have both an open and an exec.  I think I&#8217;ve tried about three different scripts which have been posted.</p>
<p>When I run it from the command line, it gives the following error:<br />
2008-10-13 12:40:11.304 open[2319] LSOpenFromURLSpec() returned -10827 for application /usr/bin/vi path /Users/ann/info/l.<br />
2008-10-13 12:40:11.304 open[2319] Couldn&#8217;t open file: /Users/ann/info/l<br />
I touched the file, so it exists, but I still get the error.</p>
<p>When I try it from FF, nothing happens at all.</p>
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		<title>By: tacitdynamite</title>
		<link>http://docwhat.gerf.org/2007/10/its-all-text-v080/comment-page-3/#comment-5924</link>
		<dc:creator>tacitdynamite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 16:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ann - Sorry, I'm not familiar really with OS-X, but I would GUESS that "open" is a specific version of the "exec" command, so you are being redundant by putting exec and open on the same line.   I believe "open" is not part of bash per se, but it part of the apple flavor unix, whereas "exec" IS part of bash.  Maybe try using "exec" and pointing it to the actual executable?  

@docwhat - Thanks for the link to TinyMCE; I hadn't seen that before.  From what I can tell by a cursory glance at TinyMCE and from what I assume to be true about Google Docs, they are the same in principle, but not in practice.  They both leverage javascript to generate html text.  I have a feeling that Google Docs was created with Google Web Kit, which generates (cross-browser and OS compatible) javascript from java code.  I have no idea how Google Docs actually captures keystrokes, though; if you open up a new Google Document and view the source, it's close to two thousand lines, and a quick search for 'textarea' turns up nothing.  I can picture an easy little greasemonkey script that would add a textarea, though, and then copy the value of the textarea edited in an external editor into the document (copy and paste work fine).  

Hey everybody, in case you didn't know, the "View Source With" plugin for firefox is a great sister plugin to this one.  Once you've written your script to load text into gvim, you can use it with "View Source With" to easily view source in gvim by default - leveraging it's pretty printing and formatting abilibities.  Yay!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ann - Sorry, I&#8217;m not familiar really with OS-X, but I would GUESS that &#8220;open&#8221; is a specific version of the &#8220;exec&#8221; command, so you are being redundant by putting exec and open on the same line.   I believe &#8220;open&#8221; is not part of bash per se, but it part of the apple flavor unix, whereas &#8220;exec&#8221; IS part of bash.  Maybe try using &#8220;exec&#8221; and pointing it to the actual executable?  </p>
<p>@docwhat - Thanks for the link to TinyMCE; I hadn&#8217;t seen that before.  From what I can tell by a cursory glance at TinyMCE and from what I assume to be true about Google Docs, they are the same in principle, but not in practice.  They both leverage javascript to generate html text.  I have a feeling that Google Docs was created with Google Web Kit, which generates (cross-browser and OS compatible) javascript from java code.  I have no idea how Google Docs actually captures keystrokes, though; if you open up a new Google Document and view the source, it&#8217;s close to two thousand lines, and a quick search for &#8216;textarea&#8217; turns up nothing.  I can picture an easy little greasemonkey script that would add a textarea, though, and then copy the value of the textarea edited in an external editor into the document (copy and paste work fine).  </p>
<p>Hey everybody, in case you didn&#8217;t know, the &#8220;View Source With&#8221; plugin for firefox is a great sister plugin to this one.  Once you&#8217;ve written your script to load text into gvim, you can use it with &#8220;View Source With&#8221; to easily view source in gvim by default - leveraging it&#8217;s pretty printing and formatting abilibities.  Yay!</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
		<link>http://docwhat.gerf.org/2007/10/its-all-text-v080/comment-page-3/#comment-5922</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 14:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am having some difficulties getting this working on my OSX laptop (Firefox 3.0.1, OSX 10.4.1, It's All Text 0.8.5).  I created the shell script as suggested because I want to use /usr/bin/vi as my editor, set execute permission, configured the plugin to use the shell script, and restarted FF.  The result is that the edit button appears, but when I click on it, nothing happens.  If I try to run the 'exec /usr/bin/open -a ...' line in a shell (using Terminal), an error flashes quickly but I don't have time to read it before the terminal is terminated (ps doesn't show any odd detached processes).  Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can fix this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am having some difficulties getting this working on my OSX laptop (Firefox 3.0.1, OSX 10.4.1, It&#8217;s All Text 0.8.5).  I created the shell script as suggested because I want to use /usr/bin/vi as my editor, set execute permission, configured the plugin to use the shell script, and restarted FF.  The result is that the edit button appears, but when I click on it, nothing happens.  If I try to run the &#8216;exec /usr/bin/open -a &#8230;&#8217; line in a shell (using Terminal), an error flashes quickly but I don&#8217;t have time to read it before the terminal is terminated (ps doesn&#8217;t show any odd detached processes).  Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can fix this?</p>
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		<title>By: docwhat</title>
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		<dc:creator>docwhat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 11:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@tacitdynamite: I don't use google docs.  Is it doing something like TinyMCE where it has an HTML area that is pretending to be a TEXTAREA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@tacitdynamite: I don&#8217;t use google docs.  Is it doing something like TinyMCE where it has an HTML area that is pretending to be a TEXTAREA?</p>
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		<title>By: tacitdynamite</title>
		<link>http://docwhat.gerf.org/2007/10/its-all-text-v080/comment-page-3/#comment-5920</link>
		<dc:creator>tacitdynamite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 06:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... now if I could only get this to work with google docs, then I could code online ... hm ... perhaps greasemonkey ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; now if I could only get this to work with google docs, then I could code online &#8230; hm &#8230; perhaps greasemonkey &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tacitdynamite</title>
		<link>http://docwhat.gerf.org/2007/10/its-all-text-v080/comment-page-3/#comment-5919</link>
		<dc:creator>tacitdynamite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 05:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I'm actually a liar - It didn't work the way I described before.  
I finally got it to work with cygwin/ratpoison/gvim.  This plugin rocks!

here's the new versions:

--text.bat-------------------------
--(associate this with ------------
--.txt in windows)-----------------

@echo off 
SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0
SET CYGWIN_ROOT=\cygwin
SET RUN=%CYGWIN_ROOT%\bin\run -p /usr/X11R6/bin
SET PATH=.;%CYGWIN_ROOT%\bin;%CYGWIN_ROOT%\usr\X11R6\bin;%PATH%
SET XAPPLRESDIR=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults
SET XCMSDB=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/Xcms.txt
SET XKEYSYMDB=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XKeysymDB
SET XNLSPATH=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale
c:\cygwin\usr\local\bin\ratpoison.exe -c "exec /c/cygwin/home/scripts/text.sh \"%~f1\""

----------------- end of text.bat -

--text.sh---------------------
/usr/bin/gvim "`cygpath --unix \"$1\"`"
------------------------------

cheers,
tacitdynamite</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m actually a liar - It didn&#8217;t work the way I described before.<br />
I finally got it to work with cygwin/ratpoison/gvim.  This plugin rocks!</p>
<p>here&#8217;s the new versions:</p>
<p>&#8211;text.bat&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
&#8211;(associate this with &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
&#8211;.txt in windows)&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>@echo off<br />
SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0<br />
SET CYGWIN_ROOT=\cygwin<br />
SET RUN=%CYGWIN_ROOT%\bin\run -p /usr/X11R6/bin<br />
SET PATH=.;%CYGWIN_ROOT%\bin;%CYGWIN_ROOT%\usr\X11R6\bin;%PATH%<br />
SET XAPPLRESDIR=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults<br />
SET XCMSDB=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/Xcms.txt<br />
SET XKEYSYMDB=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XKeysymDB<br />
SET XNLSPATH=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale<br />
c:\cygwin\usr\local\bin\ratpoison.exe -c &#8220;exec /c/cygwin/home/scripts/text.sh \&#8221;%~f1\&#8221;"</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211; end of text.bat -</p>
<p>&#8211;text.sh&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
/usr/bin/gvim &#8220;`cygpath &#8211;unix \&#8221;$1\&#8221;`&#8221;<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>cheers,<br />
tacitdynamite</p>
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